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Tony
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 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:56 am Post subject: Mailing lists |
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I a member of several mailing lists like that of The Bat and some Yahoo User Groups.
I had a bit of trouble adding them because AntispamSniper requires a name.
Somehow it configured itself and it filters correctly.
The problem is that it seems to start collecting adresses from those lists.
That are potentially thousands of adresses in my whitelist.
I'm sure they do no harm technically speaking.
But it makes me loose oversight to my list.
Is it possible to only whitelist a email adress when I privately reply to that person?
Example. I was asking advise for a antisapm solution on TheBat! mailing list. (that's how I ended up here) I got my advise an a few mails went back and forth on the mailing list. Now those persons are on my list.
But I rather have only the To: address whitelisted and not all the From: address.
Is that possible?
If not I would like a feature request.
Let Whitelist accept both To: and From: addresses where To: overrides that whitelist adding.
If I reply to that person off-list then it has become a personal contact that should get added to my whitelist.
Maybe just hidding them is fine too. |
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vetaltm
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Mailing lists |
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| Tony wrote: | I a member of several mailing lists like that of The Bat and some Yahoo User Groups.
I had a bit of trouble adding them because AntispamSniper requires a name.
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You can specify * instead of display name. This mask matches any display name, including a case when the address doesn't contain display name.
| Tony wrote: | | Somehow it configured itself and it filters correctly. |
The plug-in adds * as a display name for the addresses without display names automatically.
| Tony wrote: | The problem is that it seems to start collecting adresses from those lists.
That are potentially thousands of adresses in my whitelist.
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This is because the option "Extract email addresses from message bodies" is enabled on Filtering tab. When this option is enabled, the plug-in collects email addresses from message text and adds them to the whitelist during learning the messages as non-spam. Turn off this checkbox to make the plug-in add to whitelist only From and To addresses.
| Tony wrote: | I'm sure they do no harm technically speaking.
But it makes me loose oversight to my list.
Is it possible to only whitelist a email adress when I privately reply to that person?
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The best way to whitelist the messages from mailing lists is using a white rule. Whitelist of sender addresses is not convenient in this case, because, as you've noticed, the plug-in learns each incoming message from mailing list as non-spam and adds unnecessary items to the whitelist.
For example you can create the following white rule:
Header{Delivered-To} =~ maillist@domain\.com
All incoming messages with the address of mailing list in Delivered-To (maillist@domain.com) will be recognized as non-spam. But the plug-in doesn't not learn such messages as ham and doesn't update the whitelist. Then delete unnecessary records from the whitelist (including "*" <maillist@domain.com>). Also enable the option "Ignore email addresses without display names" on Filtering tab. In this case the mailing list address will never appear in whitelist, because usually it has no display name.
| Tony wrote: | Example. I was asking advise for a antisapm solution on TheBat! mailing list. (that's how I ended up here) I got my advise an a few mails went back and forth on the mailing list. Now those persons are on my list.
But I rather have only the To: address whitelisted and not all the From: address.
Is that possible?
If not I would like a feature request.
Let Whitelist accept both To: and From: addresses where To: overrides that whitelist adding.
If I reply to that person off-list then it has become a personal contact that should get added to my whitelist.
Maybe just hidding them is fine too. |
I'm not sure that understood your request precisely. Look how it will be after following the instructions above, may be it is exactly what you need:
- The messages from mailing lists will be recognized as non-spam by white rules.
- The plug-in will not learn such messages as non-spam and will not update the whitelist with addresses from the incoming mailing list messages.
- Both From and To addresses will be added to whitelist after training the plug-in on one of the mailing list messages. But the address of mailing list itself will not be added, because it doesn't contain a display name.
- When you reply to some message from the mailing list, the plug-in will learn the outgoing message as non-spam. The addresses with non-empty display names from From and To fields will be added to the whitelist automatically.
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Tony
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the lengthy ande detailed help.
I think your whitelist rules cover my request.
But I hav eto try to be sure because I must admit I only partly understand the syntax.
To rephrase my request with the knowledge from you answer.
When I add an adress to the whitelist the program assumes it's a From: adress. Right?
I would like to be able to tell the program that it's To: adress.
Then I can leave all those on itself usful settings like "extract email" on because once a whitelisted To: is found the program simply stops scanning the message.
Maybe a little checkbox in the whitelist is even clearer to understand.
"This is a mailing list"
Just a suggestion. I only subscribe to a few mailinglists to a few 'manual rules" are no problem. |
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vetaltm
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Tony wrote: | When I add an adress to the whitelist the program assumes it's a From: adress. Right?
I would like to be able to tell the program that it's To: adress.
Then I can leave all those on itself usful settings like "extract email" on because once a whitelisted To: is found the program simply stops scanning the message.
Maybe a little checkbox in the whitelist is even clearer to understand.
"This is a mailing list"
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With this flag your whitelist will be full of unnecessary addresses, just as you wrote in first post. The plug-in learns the messages from (or to, in case when the discussed option is enabled) whitelisted addresses as non-spam. White rules are more suitable in this case.
BTW, you can create only one white rule for all mailing lists you subscribed to:
Header{To} =~ maillist1@domain1.com|maillist2@domain2.com|...
The plug-in will classify as non-spam the messages with any of the listed addresses in To: field. But the plug-in will not learn such messages as non-spam, unless an option "Learn message" is enabled for the rule. |
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